Do you feel called to guide people on the powerful rite-of-passage that is Vision Quest? Vision Quest Protector training is a comprehensive and intense 10 day training to learn the skills necessary to be a Vision Quest Protector. 

Grandfathers Camp

Run by Kate Rydge and Sam Robertson, the training is based on the teachings passed down from Stalking Wolf, a Lipan Apache elder and Shaman, through Tom Brown Jr. It’s an incredibly difficult class to describe in a brief paragraph because the range and volume of the teachings can barely be covered in ten days and nights.

Some of the topics covered include methods of both physical and spiritual protection; how to detect areas with both light and dark influence; personal and area shielding; and the physical, emotional, spiritual dangers and difficulties of Vision Questing and the tools to transform these challenges into vision. You will learn techniques to help you shift into Spirit Mind while walking protection in the physical plane, which will enable you to see and access information beyond the 5 physical senses.

Additionally, you will learn all the logistics for organising, running, and protecting a Vision Quest for others. The exercises in this program will be intensely experiential.

While this course was originally designed to train Vision Quest Protectors, we’ve found that it opens an incredibly powerful and much more effective spiritual life for anyone on this path.

It teaches the skills of protection, of awareness, and significantly deepens your own Vision Quest experiences. This program culminates with the Second Level of Quest (see the description for the Seven Levels of Quest for more information about this quest).

Prerequisite: 4 day Wilderness Vision Quest


To receive an application form please email KATE at

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